Enjoy our conversations…
In this space we share conversations with people who have found empowering ways to reduce their dependency on money and banking. We would like to show you some of the many ways in which this is possible, inspire you and support you along your path of navigating these times. We discuss economies of care, bartering, gifting, reducing & simplifying in daily life, letting go of bank accounts – using cash only – and how all of this is genuinely connected to, and rooted in abundance.
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Living outside most systems and with very little monetary exchange – a conversation with Kate Priestley
In this 37min video Kate and I speak about our connection to the financial system – how we use and don’t use money, and why we chose to live the way we do – as independently from external systems as possible. We also address health care without money, or insurances, and dive into some of the joys and dangers we have encountered while living outside most systems.
Through our connectedness to the natural wisdom that flows through us a vast freedom opens which is very different from freedom created by financial riches. While Kate has settled in a remote, abandoned off-grid village in the Spanish Pyrenees, I am a vagabond moving through different countries, communities and projects. Yet the depth of our experiences, the rich colours of our lives and the transformation that happens naturally through our ever deepening connection with ourselves and everything that surrounds us are the same.
We see this as the first video of a series and will likely go more deeply into the practicalities of using very little money in every-day life, and the details about how we do still use it in conversations to come. In a world of increasing instability and renewal we hope you find this helpful, or inspiring. Enjoy!
Indigenous barter systems, reduced dependency on money and the courage to trust and navigate massive life changes – a conversation with Agnès Le Moigne
Agnès is a fascinating woman and nature photographer, originally from France but now living in Mexico at the time of our conversation, where exchange at a local, indigenous barter market is part of the unfolding of her life of deep transformation. Due to a difficult history of disease Agnès has come to appreciate situations which take her out of her comfort zone and lead her to ever new experiences of who she can be. Enjoy her fascinating story. You will also hear some drumming in the background as a group of street musicians decided to play in front of her house as we were recording the conversation. So is life in Mexico – rich, spontaneous, unpredictable.
Here is the link to Agnès’ website and her blog post about the indigenous barter market she engages with in Mexico. Lot’s of additional info about her story of recovery from difficult disease in unconventional ways can also be found here https://agneslemoigne.art/patzcuaro-barter-market/. Don’t forget to check out her beautiful nature photography on the same website.
Living in, and embodying abundance without dependency on money – a conversation with Owen
Owen is a musician from the UK, who grew up with a mindset of poverty. His fascinating story describes how life brought him to exactly the situations and people he needed to step by step transform his patterns and break free from lack. He still uses money but the dependency has vanished. Enjoy our audio track interspersed with Owen’s beautiful music (see soundtracks below).
01/03/2023 – Conversation with Owen
Owen on Bandcamp: https://owenhanner.bandcamp.com/
You may have noticed that we mentioned a person called Jacqueline Hobbs, or Oracle Girl in the interview. If you are not familiar with her work, here is the link to her website: www.oraclegirl.org. Participation in the space she offers has transformed both my life and that of Owen beyond description, and has lead to much personal empowerment based on our own choices and connectedness with all life rather than through some form of dependency on a system, or guru figure.
Timestamps:
Intro: Sand-to-Sea, excerpt
(on landing in Alicante, 2021)

