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Abundance without money: Meeting summary – May 31st, 2025 – By Carina Ramm

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This is the summary of our 2nd online group meeting on ‘Reducing dependency on money & banking’, March 31st, 2025. It was a wonderful group. Much sharing happened. The conversation was inspiring and empowering. Thank you to everyone who participated. 

Below are some key points of our discussion. We right away dove into practicalities around non-monetary exchange, cutting bills, and the difficulties related to the healthy sharing of resources. We also talked about donation systems, giving freely and healthier ways to use money via a new type of bank and new, experimental, community-based currencies. And much more. I started the conversation by sharing about the sudden end of a recent non-monetary work exchange that I had organised through the Workaway platform.

Non-monetary work exchanges:

  • Workaway and similar platforms are a possibility to work in exchange for food and a place to stay. There is a diversity of platforms through which travellers, or anyone who wishes to be part of a project on a non-monetary basis can find hosts. Many platforms are focused on a particular type of experience such as house-sitting, animal care, or organic farming. Personally I like Workaway because of the diversity of initiatives featured. For me such exchanges are a meaningful way to travel as the collaboration with local people and projects offers deeper insights into local cultures.
  • In the last 2 years I noticed an increasing openness to variations in exchange conditions, and more room for negotiation – moving away from a fixed number of work hours, and towards an appreciation and valuation not only of work but also company, the presence of another person, enjoyable conversations etc. My exchanges sometimes also included airplane tickets, or shared excursions to explore the region rather than just food and accommodation. There is a lot of flexibility once a real bond between host and traveller forms which is valued and nourished from both sides.
Sharing one’s resources in healthy ways:

  • Someone shared that she has abundant financial resources and land, and would like to give more, but inviting people to shared living and care for her land has proven difficult. People need to fit together on many levels, and complement each other. A lot of pioneer work is needed, and the importance of exchange of ideas and mutual encouragement was pointed out as being more helpful than searching for solutions. Through meeting and conversation we already move forward and open pathways energetically. The physical then falls into place more easily and smoothly.
  • I have heard from many hosts who run transformative projects and invite volunteers to their places that a high level of selectiveness is needed when we choose who we work or share a living space with. Ability to adapt to new people and changing circumstances is also key.
  • It was suggested that we simply need to keep moving and set strong boundaries which we get better at the more often we do it.
Reducing bills in tight, very regulated countries:

  • One person, living in Switzerland shared that she has not used her health insurance in decades, but living without health insurance is illegal. She would like to get rid of that very expensive bill, but how? If she cancels her current insurance, then she has to provide proof of purchasing a new one. The same happens in Germany, but what I noticed is that leaving the country which was an obvious reason to terminate my German health insurance without opening a new one got me out of the system. When I later re-entered the country and lived there for 5 months nobody approached me regarding insurance. It was still illegal but I was able to live in Germany without a health insurance. So, getting out of the system in some reasonable way such as leaving the country for a while may open the door for getting off the radar.
Donation-based work:

  • In countries where people are not used to financial freedom at all meaning room for negotiation and a multiplicity of monetary exchange models, donation systems are often perceived as awkward. This includes many western European countries like Germany, Switzerland, UK etc. As a result donation-based work can be tedious and frustrating when people are simply paralysed when confronted with financial choice rather than set prices. However, we concluded that the more people switch to donation-based systems, the clearer these pathways become, and societies get more used to checking in with themselves about what and how much they wish to give.
  • It was pointed out that sliding scales are often perceived as easier to deal with because lower and upper price limits are set which provides orientation.
  • There is a lot of fear connected with switching to donation-based work that was shared about, because such exchange models may be misused and misinterpreted by less awake community members. Donation-based work also seems to be perceived as less predictable regarding income. Yet financial predictability is decreasing quickly under any circumstances. More about fear further down…
Giving freely:

  • It was shared that in the UK there is already a variety of groups/communities which are rooted entirely in the concept of giving freely. This includes for example The Growing Network which supports local people with growing and sharing food, seeds, plants and more. Another example is A Touch of Gentleness – a community that freely shares hand massages and genuine listening. Both projects aim to deepen community bonds, create healthy safety networks and a culture that is rooted in nature’s ways of exchange. I also recently found out about Sand River Community Farm in the USA which operates entirely on the principles of gifting. The project sees itself as a radical hospitality model and experiment.
  • We noticed that many of us who were part of the group call are involved in non-monetary food exchanges, or even in personal or community initiatives which are rooted in the principles of giving freely. This was a beautiful realisation.
What is your relationship with money…

  • Is a good question to ask to gain more clarity. Where are you at regarding your financial life? Does it feel good? Do you feel in healthy control? Are there areas where you could use money less? May such a change even deepen the bond with neighbours, friends, colleagues etc.? If something does not feel right, then there is a reason for it. Allowing this feeling to fully surface is important. No distracting because the non-addressing of what needs change leads to non-alignment with the ways in which nature functions.
Creating spaces for sharing ideas and experiences:

  • The need for spaces to share and exchange as we move forward in difficult times was brought up many times, and much gratitude was expressed for Sun Beings and the online group meeting. Conversations like this are so important. Not only do we support each other but we could literally feel issues which were addressed dissolving, and new pathways opening up – materialisation in action. Personally, I have so often experienced major shifts after simply talking about a challenge with another person, laying it all out clearly. We all experience these kinds of dynamics. Suddenly at the physical level the right things can fall into place.
Facing fear was a re-occurring topic:

  • Making bold moves out of the system, pioneering new ways of business, community, health care etc., setting clear boundaries and sticking to what truly and deeply resonates takes courage and often brings up fear. We discussed how this fear needs to be given the space to fully arise and be felt. It then usually either dissolves, or at least more clarity arises, and new pathways can open. This is not possible when fear is suppressed, or pushed to the side through distraction.
  • Someone recently suggested in a different type of online meeting that it may be useful to address fear, and facing fear through Sun Beings. I may record a video about this topic, and there was also agreement that a group call would be appreciated. Stay tuned…
  • It was shared that asking oneself: “What exactly is it that I am afraid of?” can be powerful because often the issue that emerges as the cause of the fear is something that we already know we do not need to be frightened of. It is sometimes even laughable. But if we don’t inquire into it, then we can’t see it for what it is. Being overwhelmed by fear is rarely necessary. Often fear just indicates that a move needs to be made.
Does everyone need to get out of the financial system, or reduce their dependency on it now?

  • Of course not. We can put ourselves under a lot of pressure by pushing for what we BELIEVE needs to change in our lives. Once the right point for that change has come though, it happens by itself without forcing anything. How to navigate that road in practical ways once we are already on it can be challenging and this is why we meet and discuss.
  • One person shared that she is collaborating with people who are fully integrated in the industrial farming system. Yet she farms organically. Such exchange of frequency, food, experience and inspiration is just as important as creating pathways which lay fully, or close to fully outside institutional and industrial systems. It can have massive ripple effects.
  • There are also people who operate within the old systems and who will eventually take part in bringing them down. This is why they need to be there. There is no one set way of navigating these times.
Healthier monetary systems:

  • Someone from the USA pointed us to the Global Family Bank as a resource and example for dealing with money differently. Here is an excerpt from the website “This journey [of this bank] began in 2008 when Hunter began his hypothesis, Love Is Energy. Research focused on the energy of love and he found that we are programmed to believe that life is balanced opposites. He began to observe from an energy perspective of frequency and vibration that LOVE and EVIL are not opposites, but two completely different energies that are not compatible in vibration and frequency and therefore not in resonance.”
  • I also pointed to two new currencies rotted in France: JEU – Jardin d’Echange Universel and La June G1 as examples for decentralised community-based currencies. Both emphasise mutual support without hierarchy, debt, interest rates, or inflation.
  • You can find many more projects which change the way we deal with money on our ‘Economies of care’ page, as well as on other pages throughout the Sun Beings website.
Variations in call times to include additional geographic regions:

  • We received emails from members of the Sun Beings community who live in Australia and India pointing out that the call times are difficult for them, or not suitable at all. Hence in the near future we will host a group call which includes these times zones. Thank you so much for reaching out to us.

If you are looking for more inspiration and practical pathways towards reducing dependency on money and banking, check out our guide or the summary of our previous group call.

2 thoughts on “Abundance without money: Meeting summary – May 31st, 2025 – By Carina Ramm”

  1. I just wanted to share how beautiful these gatherings on this topic are. It dawned on me, after our meeting or better put, I heard the question arise in me “what/how is my true relationship to money”, I did not find a clear answer in me to that question and I realized I do not really know what money truly means to me and why am I using it, of course to pay for things I supposedly need, did that arise in me or is that just conditioning, something I just hooked onto? An adventure began and is still ongoing. Diving into what worth/value truly means to me, consciously registering what feelings I experience when I purchase something, why am I buying something, what does it really nourish me with. Is money personal, is it my friend or my enemy? I always thought of myself as someone very conscious in spending money, knowing what I am spending it for, who I am giving money to, etc. this adventure is showing me that my relationship seems very superficial, something completely new opened up, actually a whole new dimension. Words fail to describe this change happening in me.
    And the best thing is there is no strain at all, it just unfolds moment to moment, day by day.
    THANK YOU all, for a precious space we create when we are able to truly, honestly, openly share with each other.

    1. Hi Nicole, thank yo so much for the wonderful comment, and for sharing about your journey. I enjoyed reading. So much is changing so quickly. I am currently travelling a very expensive and exclusive region of the Italian Alps (Livigno area), but camping wild, in beautiful forests it costs me close to nothing – just some expenses for food, and coffee to use the internet at cafes. It’s a wild journey up here with a challenging mix of frequencies – breath-taking mountains, forests and meadows, and stunning old wooden houses which are home to stores of Armani, Gucci, Hugo Boss, Under Armour … and super expensive hotels and restaurants. Yet even here my experience is that money is needed for very few things. It is fascinating to become clearer and clearer about this, and yes – it is beyond words. Lot’s of love to you.

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Carina Ramm

Carina was the original founder of SunBeings who approached Kate to do the design for the platform. In the 3.5 years of working together, a friendship blossomed, and creative ideas arose between the two of them that has helped build what SunBeings has the potential to grow into.

Since December 2025, Carina has left to move onto engaging with the world in other ways, more offline, but we cannot forget the legacy she has left behind – SunBeings wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for her!

Carina’s dedication, passion, and knowledge was very admirable. Her compassion and drive for supporting a new better world we know is possible was felt. She was a whiz at research, writing and speaking… a brain that worked lightning fast that made others seem slow in comparison! Her sense of solidity enabled her to work even while on the move with her constantly changing environments.

Carina managed to research and write summaries for nearly 500 ethical businesses! She brought further to light how we can live with less dependency on money and banking systems, how we can use gift economies, a new donation model, what real ethics aligned with nature is, the true histories of this planet and more.

She has lived for many years without a bank account or phone, engaged very minimally with financial systems, travelled to many parts of the world, and lived in deep trust and communion with herself and nature to receive what it is she needs. She has contributed many posts onto the blog inspiring others with her experiences and findings.

Check out her poetry booklet she has left behind with a wonderful collection of poems and writings she has done over the years.

You won’t be forgotten Carina! We hope to continue what you have started.

Owen Hanner

Owen is Kate’s partner and a grounded presence behind SunBeings. Both highly creative and logical, with a gift for words, an eye for beauty, and an artistic soul. With his keen eye and a good overview of what’s in alignment, Owen gives feedback, helps with writing and streamlines the content.

He is a gifted musician who can play many instruments, often capturing those who happen to come across his live, dynamic improvisations, and the magic that happens when he gets together with other musicians. A treat for the ears and those who are willing to dream – which fulfils his sense of purpose as his music contains messages of his dream of the new world. Owen’s music has often been his key to opening doors in his life… including in bringing Kate to him. He has had his music included in some of the SunBeings videos.

As a video editor, he is excellent at creating dreamy worlds bursting with freedom, colour and natures dance through his videos he attaches with his music.

Highly creative at whatever he applies himself to, he leans towards creating complex layers to his creative projects with a high attention to detail, that reveals more subtleties when one looks deeper. It reflects his feeling and sensitivity for the intricacies in life.

Owen has a deep sense of love and beauty and lives in deep communion with it. With that, Kate and Owen share an adventurous life together that has provided a driving spark behind SunBeings. They have dived deep into exploring what following nature and a new earth looks like… this can be both a painful and joyful process, and one of deep growth, that helps to ignite this platform. Thank you to Owen for the flame and loving support!

Kate Priestley

Kate is an original co-founder and the current coordinator of SunBeings providing much of the foundation and is the designer. Bouncing around with creative ideas, listening to others’ ideas, she has a way to ground them into the physical.

She is a passionate multi-disciplinary creative, and she treats this platform as a creative outlet, to make a space where people can commune and share themselves. Kate loves to nurture others’ gifts and help bring them out into the world. She likes to share the good and the innovative and has a natural passion for community.

An adventurous and playful spirit who likes to push the usual boundaries of the known. Through answering nature’s calls, she has found life to reward her in ways often very unexpected. Discomforts and challenges are often met, but they provide doorways into her own understanding of herself and life – they become something else in her eyes. As a storyteller, she is enthusiastic about sharing her experiences with others in case it may benefit another.

She also is a painter, illustrator and photographer. Her works are often highly expressive with an explosion of colour and play.

Kate has long been interested in projects that bring about change or have a positive impact on the world. Since a young age, she has liked to combine art and social engagement. Now all her interests come together in running SunBeings, and growing its community platform for all of us.

Nixi “No fixed thing” Cole

Coordinator, Coach, Creative and Champion of whole hearted projects and creatives. Nixi offers her gifts as a writer, editor, group holder, artist and art curator. She also loves being in a garden and growing things.

Nixi has a passion and strength for recognising and nurturing gifts in people, places and projects. She is empathic, intuitive, enthusiastic and dynamic in nature, naturally uplifting and energising in many of her offerings. Making connections across the physical and non-physical and encouraging our full and true expression.

Wonderful at coaching, mentoring and holding a safe space, she is gifted in seeing and expanding possibilities with a great sense of joy, play and creativity that pushes on our usual boundaries of imagination.

She has been helping behind the scenes at SunBeings for a little while supporting Kate and Owen and the wider field of the platform and its potentials, coming up with fun ideas, gently questioning, feeling and finding possibilities.

She loves playing with words, pens and fabric and hopes some of this will find its way on to SunBeings offerings too.

Nixi has a free and bright spirit, with extremely sensitive sensors for all subtleties of life. She is connected to the vastness of the universe and yet deeply grounded and anchored in nature. She moves fluidly between energetic, emotional and practical levels, integrating it all with humility and humour.

Nixi is full of magic, joy and love, while also not scared to sense and feel what’s uncomfortable, painful, or unfamiliar. Her curious and listening nature have carried her to many places and experiences and she has been nomadic for over two years.

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